Curse

Midnight Harmony · Aug 22, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I was getting tired of Crippling slash, so I decided to create a new build. This will be used for PvE, especially GW:EN, and I was wondering what do you lot think of it?

- Swordsmanship: 16
- Tactics: 11
- Strength: 7

1. "For Great Justice!"
2. Enraging Charge
3. Dragon Slash (E)
4. Galrath Slash
5. Final Thrust
6. Heal Sig
7. "Watch Yourself!"
8. Rez

karunpav · Aug 22, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

1. D-Slash+FT on the same bar is a BIG nono. Drop FT, IMO.

2. No Flail. You NEEEDZZ Flail in PvE. No exceptions.

3. IMO, bring either Watch Yourself or Healing Signet. I try not to bring both at the same time. Some people may disagree, but hey... I don't like them on the same bar much.

4. Needs moar DW. Bring Sever-Gash instead of Galrath-Final. Then bring S&M Slash bcoz it rox.

5. I honestly think bringing FGJ and EC is redundant. Bring one or the other. You do have Dragon Slash after all.

Final Bar should look like this:

Dragon Slash
Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
FGJ/EC
Flail
Watch Yourself/Healing Signet
Res.

blue.rellik · Aug 22, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I think a Dlash-Galrath-Silverwing can be very viable. It's damage output is unmatchable. However if you're in areas where the monks are troublesome (like HM) then DW is necessary

Midnight Harmony · Aug 22, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

I have adjusted my build:

1. "For Great Justice!"
2. Dragon Slash (or Crippling Slash for caster-heavy areas)
3. Sever Artery (can be replaced with Flail)
4. Gash
5. Thrill Of Victory
6. Heal Sig
7. "Watch Yourself!"
8. Rez

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Less Thrill of Victory (it sucks!

), more Flail.

Quick bit of maths - a 33% attack speed boost, such as Flail, decreases the time between swings by 33%.
What this actually does is increase the number of attacks you do by 50%, consequently increasing adrenaline gain and damage by 50%, too.
IAS is stupid powerful, with Flail there's NO reason not to run one in PvE.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 22, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

There's not really a big reason to run energy attacks on a dragon slasher, but like alex said, flail > all. Also, heal sig and watch yourself is probably overkill, since there's a monk behind you watching to make sure you don't get yourself killed anyway. I'd toss healing signet for standing slash or somesuch.

Tab · Aug 22, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Less Thrill of Victory (it sucks!

), more Flail.

Shove - Crushing Blow - Thrill of Victory. Discuss.
Gimmicky spikes ftw.

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Meh, I'd rather have Soldier's Strike.
Actually, Protector's Strike.
No...
Wait!

...

rawr

Arkantos · Aug 22, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

A dragon slash build without sun and moon slash is a fail build.

Yukito Kunisaki · Aug 22, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

You want Adrenaline?

Yeesh. Bring 3 stat points into Blood Magic and use Mark of Fury... Screw FGJ and Enraging Charge... If you can't even spare 3 points... Uh, wtf are you doing?

You're a Dragon Slash build, you DON'T NEED energy. If Mark of Fury is your only energy skill, then you're fine! [5e. come on, don't be cheap ^_^]

I'm with Karunpav with this mod to his build:

Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
Dragon Slash {E}
Flail
Watch Yourself (party) / Healing Signet (tough level or dumb monks)
Mark of Fury
Res.

16 swords
9 Tactics (Flail doesn't need much str imho to be effective)
3-5 Blood Magic
leftovers to Strength

Your ONLY energy goes to Mark of Fury and with a recycle time of 10s. Every other foe should be dead when you use it..

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

personally i like headbut 8 wars vs hm shiro headbutt celsetial skill bam dead and ure a few brain cells shorter like every war should be. gorons my hero so ya. has anyone considered using soldiers stance + watchyourself i find its the perfect generic build for any weapon i especially like using it with a spear. also 120+ armor ftw

but ya never thought of mark of fury but sounds good

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Performance Pudding

soldiers stance + watchyourself

Why waste your elite when Frenzy/Flail does the same thing?

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

the armor... plus you move slower with flail and take more damage with frenzy. soldiers stance gives a constant 33% with no negative, and when i use it my squishies all have 86 armor. well its constant after 4 attacks but still i really like it.

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

... yet it wastes your Elite slot.
The elite is what makes a build.

And you still need a cancel stance to catch kiters.

Soldier's Stance is a really, really horrible skill.

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

thats your opinion but i disagree not goin any further because you just dissed my favourite stance >.< lol jk but still its a good elite if you know how to use it.

im talking for hm extra armor is crazy helpful for the casters and if i did flail i wouldent catch the monsters attackin my casters and if i used frenzy they would spike me in 2 seconds so for its cost id say its the best attack speed skill a war can get. (otherwise it would just be a normal skill) also its the only skill that lets you attack faster without a long recharge, negative benifits, and the only way it can work is if you have a shout which rocks because most shouts benifit your whole team. not everything is about pure damage.

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Performance Pudding

still its a good elite if you know how to use it.

No, no, it really isn't.

If it provided a run speed buff as well, then... maybe.
But they'd have to nerf Eviscerate, DSlash and all the rest of the really kick ass warrior elites first.

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

you truely are the most biased cat that can type ive ever encountered on a forum lol

Tab · Aug 22, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

No. Just no. Solder's Stance is an AWFUL skill. It's so bad im not even going to try and make it seem better with kittens.

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

i did not try to make it seem better it just is a great skill and thats that if it sucks for you then you are not using it in the right context so lets just stop with the attack on skills and help this guy with a better build or if thats already been done close the thread because this has gotten way off topic.

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Except it's not a great skill.
It's a truly horrible excuse for a skill.
Untill it gets a real buff, there's absolutely no reason to run it. Ever.

And please, I'm not a cat.
I'm emo. Get it right.